Broken Chart

[sadchild]

Ok I seem to want to keep posting about the broken chart known as the Hot 100 like an old man on a soap box. I guess I'll give it its own thread.

First, my previous posts about it

Drake’s Certified Lover Boy posted a monster performance on the Billboard Hot 100 chart this week, taking nine of the Top 10 slots and charting all 21 songs in the Top 40.

BROKEN CHART!

When we bought Thriller back in 1982, every time we played the album at home from start to finish, it didn't count as a "spin" for every song. This charting by streaming is BS, and easily manipulated by artists and record labels.\

one song topped the Billboard Hot 100 in three different years: 2019, 2020 and 2021. It's number one this week and it's sold more than 10,000,000 copies. I'm sure you can all guess what it is. All I want for Christmas is to never have to hear this song again.

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I know I sound like a broken record but....

BROKEN CHART!

I'm officially that crazy old man complaining about the same thing every time you see me. But not only is the Hot 100 broken on this side of the pond, but so is the UK Official Singles Chart.

69 of the Top 100 songs in the UK are holiday songs, most of them are decades old.

BROKEN CHARTS!

It debuted on the August 15 2020 Hot 100 chart at #19 – and the next week fell to #99
BROKEN CHART!!! (since at least 2013)

oddly, Something in the Way by Nirvana (off Nevermind) is #46. What's up with that?

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BROKEN CHART!

1. Someone dies
2. A million people go "Who was that?" = a million streams
3. A million people go "Now I want to listen to that artist" = another million streams.

Case in point:

Prince's death:
4/21/2016

Hot 100 [5/4/2016]:
#17 "Purple Rain" (re-entry)
#20 "When Doves Cry" (re-entry)
#28 "Kiss" (re-entry)
#29 "Little Red Corvette" (re-entry)
#39 "Let's Go Crazy" (re-entry)
#41 "1999" (re-entry)

Hot 100 [5/11/2016]:
#4 "Purple Rain"
#8 "When Doves Cry"
#20 "Little Red Corvette"
#23 "Kiss"
#25 "Let's Go Crazy"
#27 "1999"
#33 "Raspberry Beret" (re-entry)
#39 "I Would Die 4 U" (re-entry)

Hot 100 [5/18/2016]:
no entries

BROKEN CHART!

Ok, now that we're up to date

All 16 songs from
Beyonce's 'Renaissance' land on this week's Hot 100
#1, Break My Soul
#13, Cuff It
#19, Alien Superstar
#22, Church Girl
#26, I'm That Girl
#27, Energy
#30, Cozy
#41, Plastic Off the Sofa
#43, Virgo's Groove
#47, Summer Renaissance
#51, Heated
#53, Thique
#55, Move
#64, Pure/Honey
#69, America Has a Problem
#70, All Up in Your Mind

*stands on soapbox*
*clears throat*

BROKEN CHART!!

 

[Channel98]

Your honor, to bolster your case I would like to introduce exhibits A, B and C:

In October 2008, Britney Spears' Womanizer jumped from #96 to number one. In February 2009, Kelly Clarkson's My Life Would Suck Without You jumped from #97 to number one. In May 2019, Me! by Taylor Swift and Brandon Urie jumped from #100 to #2.

Since his first chart hit in May 2009, Drake has had 276 songs (including duets) on the Hot 100 – and 24 songs on the Bubbling Under chart.

Between June 2009 and October 2013, a span of four years and five months, the cast of Glee had 208 songs on the Hot 100 – and 75 songs on the Bubbling Under chart.

 

[HecticArt]

And I bet that most of them (whoever they are) will be in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame before Judas Priest.

 

[sadchild]

Let's see. Who released an album this week on a label that bought robo-streams and prime placement on Spotify playlists?

TW LW
17 -- DJ Khaled "God Did"
21 27 DJ Khaled "Staying Alive"
29 -- DJ Khaled "Beautiful"
31 -- DJ Khaled "Big Time"
49 -- DJ Khaled "Use This Gospel"
55 -- DJ Khaled "Juice WRLD Did"
57 -- DJ Khaled "Keep Going"
66 -- DJ Khaled "Party"
77 -- DJ Khaled "It Ain't Safe"
78 -- DJ Khaled "No Secret"
86 -- DJ Khaled "Let's Pray"

 

[sadchild]

Coming to Hot 100 near you.....

Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen" (1977)
Smiths "The Queen Is Dead" (1986)

...thanks to millions of people streaming them.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

The Queen catalogue may gain some popularity.

 

[Channel98]

I wonder what the Queen thought of this Paul McCartney song:

 

[sadchild]

The Day Drake Beat the Beatles
AUGUST 15, 2022

Move over, Fab Four. Toronto’s favorite son, Aubrey Graham, now has more top-five songs on the Billboard Hot 100 than any artist in history.

When John Lennon said in 1966 — perhaps jokingly, perhaps deadly serious — that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus, little did he know that 20 years later, another son would rise across the sea in stately Toronto.

For decades, Liverpool’s Fab Four held the elite distinction of producing the most songs ever to crack the top five of the preeminent singles chart in the global pop canon, the Billboard Hot 100, with an incredible 29. That is, until today, when DJ Khaled’s “Staying Alive” featuring Drake and Lil Baby checked in at No. 5.

That makes 30 top-five singles for Drizzy, folks.



Let's take a look at Drake's "impressive" "more top 5s than the Beatles" collection of music...

Peaked at No. 5
“Find Your Love,” 2010
“Look Alive” (BlocBoy JB feat. Drake), 2018
“MIA” (Bad Bunny feat. Drake), 2018
“No Guidance” (Chris Brown feat. Drake), 2019
“Staying Alive” (DJ Khaled feat. Drake & Lil Baby), 2022

Peaked at No. 4
“Hold On, We’re Going Home,” 2013
“Knife Talk,” 2021
“Champagne Poetry,” 2021

Peaked at No. 3
“She Will” (Lil Wayne feat. Drake), 2011
“Popstar” (DJ Khaled feat. Drake), 2020
“Lemon Pepper Freestyle,” 2021
“Fair Trade,” 2021

Peaked at No. 2
“Best I Ever Had,” 2009
“Hotline Bling,” 2015
“Nonstop,” 2018
“Life is Good” (Future feat. Drake), 2020
“Laugh Now Cry Later,” 2020
“Wants and Needs,” 2021
“Girls Want Girls,” 2021

Reached No. 1
“What’s My Name?” (Rihanna feat. Drake), 2010
“Work” (Rihanna feat. Drake), 2016
“One Dance,” 2016
“God’s Plan,” 2018
“Nice for What,” 2018
“In My Feelings,” 2018
“Tootsie Slide,” 2020
“What’s Next,” 2021
“Way 2 Sexy,” 2021
“Wait For U” (Future feat. Drake & Tems), 2022
“Jimmy Cooks,” 2022

MY RATINGS:
Good: 0
Okay: 1
Haven't heard and don't give a shit about: 29

 

[scotchandcigar]

I say don't sweat it, man. All the most popular things are shit: Bud Light, American Idol, The Kardashians, McDonalds, Adam Sandler movies, Dominos. And in this case, the Billboard 100 actually represents a tiny sliver of people, because of their formula. It's like measuring FM radio listenership today.

 

[sadchild]

I do enjoy bitching about it. Especially since I wish there were a real Hot 100 that showed me what the new good music is. I legitimately want to know what's big in the pop world and what's crossing over, because I'm always craving new music. Even in the early 2000s I would cruise through the Hot 100 from time to time seeing if there was anything good, and found the occasional diamond in the rough. These days? Forget it. Even the genre charts like rock and rap are totally useless. So I'm real disappointed that the chart is broken.

 

[scotchandcigar]

I do enjoy bitching about it.

Well then you've come to the right place!

 

[Channel98]

Thirty years ago this week, the song that had been on the Hot 100 the longest was En Vogue's My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It), 29 weeks. Forty years ago this week, the song that had been on the longest was John Mellencamp's Hurts So Good, 24 weeks.

This week, Heat Waves by Glass Animals has been on the Hot 100 for 88 weeks. Stay by The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber has been on for 52 weeksa. Ghost by Justin Bieber has been on for 52 weeks. Broken chart!

 

[sadchild]

Truth!

The last song I recognize as king of "most weeks" is:

76 weeks, "I'm Yours," Jason Mraz, Peak #6, Sept. 20, 2008

I see these as legit too:

65, "You Were Meant for Me"/"Foolish Games," Jewel, #2, April 19, 1997
64, "Before He Cheats," Carrie Underwood, #8, June 2, 2007
62, "Ho Hey," The Lumineers, #3, Dec. 29, 2012
60, "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)," Los Del Rio, #1 (14 weeks), Aug. 3, 1996
59, "Somebody That I Used to Know," Gotye feat. Kimbra, #1 (eight weeks), April 28, 2012
58, "Smooth," Santana feat. Rob Thomas, #1 (12 weeks), Oct. 23, 1999

I remember these songs being hot for a full year, whether or not I like 'em.

 

[sadchild]

"the number of new acts vaulting into the top 10 of the Hot 100 has declined precipitously in the last few years"

THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN ANYONE RELEASES A NEW ALBUM, THEY HOG UP 9 SPOTS OF THE TOP 10, BLOCKING OUT 8 SONGS FROM OTHER ARTISTS. DUH!!!

EXCERPTS FROM THE ARTICLE:

There are many ways to judge — and argue over — what “breaking” means today; label executives tend to use streaming numbers as a barometer, while most managers prefer to look at ticket sales. But the number of new acts vaulting into the top 10 of the Hot 100 has declined precipitously in the last few years. From 2001 to 2004, over 30 first-timers cracked the top 10 annually. In 2019, however, only 15 first-timers reached the top 10, and 2021 had the lowest number of new entrants this millennium: just 13.

The drought has some managers and label executives worried. “All of my industry peers are having this conversation: What’s next?” Anokute says. Others use more colorful language to describe the current landscape. It’s “abysmal,” according to one A&R executive turned manager. “The market’s dry as fuck,” declares a veteran major-label A&R executive who requested anonymity to speak candidly. “There’s less and less shit working. The front-line label business, signing new artists, is in trouble.” “I can honestly say right now that nobody — nobody — knows what’s going on,” another longtime major-label A&R says.

The rise of TikTok has complicated matters, too. The platform has become a hit-maker — helping Em Beihold’s “Numb Little Bug” and Nicky Youre’s “Sunroof” climb the charts, for example — but it’s an unpredictable marketing tool, less susceptible to manipulation and less responsive to star power than other platforms. Engineering a viral moment is akin to walking into a corner store and emerging with a winning lottery ticket. “There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to what breaks there,” says Justin Lehmann, who manages Aminé and Khai Dreams, among others. “And without breaking there, it’s difficult to say what else can cause a big moment to happen for anybody.”

Taken together, all these factors mean that seizing — and then holding — the attention of the music-loving masses is that much more challenging. “It used to be that you released an album, got Rolling Stone to review it, got on tour, got on late-night TV, [AND PAYOLA] and that was how you broke,” says one senior executive at a major label. Even if luck was a factor, the path was clear. “It was four or five things. Now you need four or five things a week, or at least a month, or else your streams don’t go up.”

Too Many Songs, Not Enough Hits: Pop Music Is Struggling to Create New Stars

Music executives say that a deluge of new music — and the difficulty of influencing TikTok's algorithm — has made artist development and building an audience harder than ever for new acts.

www.billboard.com

 

[scotchandcigar]

It's becoming lowest common denominator, kind of like the top-rated TV show in the movie Idiocracy

 

[sadchild]

I've never seen that movie, but now I want to

 

[scotchandcigar]

I've never seen that movie, but now I want to

There are parts that kind of languish about half-way in, but otherwise it's a brilliant movie that happened to predict a lot of what's been going on in this country.

 

[HecticArt]

It will go down in history with Nostradamus for it's ability to predict the future.

 

[sadchild]

THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN ANYONE RELEASES A NEW ALBUM, THEY HOG UP 9 SPOTS OF THE TOP 10, BLOCKING OUT 8 SONGS FROM OTHER ARTISTS. DUH!!!

Not even kidding!

https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2021-09-18/

 

[sadchild]

AND ANOTHER THING!!!

Artists with the most entries on the #Hot100:

278,
@Drake

207,
@gleeofficial

183,
@LilTunechi

168,
@taylorswift13

152,
@1future

141,
@kanyewest

125,
@NICKIMINAJ

113,
@chrisbrown

111,
@lilbaby4PF

109,
@ElvisPresley
THE ONLY ONE I RECOGNIZE AS VALID! GET OFF MY LAWN!

105, Jay-Z

104,
@justinbieber

96, YoungBoy Never Broke Again