Very true. But, I don't think I would have want to drag anyone into that confusion, lol.This would have been an ideal and almost impossible answer to one our your WAI threads.
Very true. But, I don't think I would have want to drag anyone into that confusion, lol.This would have been an ideal and almost impossible answer to one our your WAI threads.
I get what you're saying but I find that so hard to believe and I really want to justify these guys because they're like my heroes but I can't find a way to do it.It's a complicated matter. It was not looked at the same way back then. They didn't think they owned other humans. They did not consider the slaves human. The attitude is clearly wrong by today's standards but was not considered wrong then. That did start to change shortly after and by 1860 about 1/2 the country had moved away from that viewpoint. And as you know the other half wasn't willing to give it up.
That's very true, but a lot different. For the most part they didn't go there to enslave, they went to convert. Tons of missionaries went to Japan to try to convert them to Christianity and while I may not agree with it, I can see the morality in it.There are tons of missionary people who went overseas to save the savages. Much the same mindset.
You will also be dismayed to find his view on women's place in society was not up to today's standards either.That makes sense. Jefferson and Washington and those guys were nowhere near the actual slave trade. Definitely not in Africa and not even an America. I imagine people just brought them to those guys.
I know this is a worn out point but it's just so fucking weird for him to sit there in his fucking study and have like John Adams (who never owned slaves) come and advise him and everything and then he decided to write the greatest document ever written yet steeped in hypocrisy.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights
While in his front yard he literally owned people and, whether consensual or not, was raping a woman he owned.
And yeah the Christian thing does make a lot of sense but it's also crazy. They were all about proselytizing but at the same time recognized the importance of religion not playing a central role in the new government they were creating.
So God created Adam & Eve and then they were banished and found some other men & woman not created by God?I'm no expert on this matter, but a random thought.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights
According to the story of Creation in the Bible (Genesis 4:1-15), after Cain killed Abel there were three people in the Garden of Eden: Adam, Eve and Cain. After being banished, Cain found a wife in the land of Nod (located east of Eden). Five Percenters believe that the people of Nod could be none other than the Original man, Asiatic Black-man of Asia from whom Africans, and then African-Americans are descended from.
Perhaps Christian whites believed they are descendants of Adam and Eve and blacks were descendants of Cain and therefore not the same? Leading to some wacky twisted "now I can enslave, torture and rape you" logic based on that? Descendants of Cain aren't endowed with those unalienable rights (according to psychotic Bible thumpers) because of Biblical lineage? Just a wild guess...
That explains a lot.humans today would be genetic rejects and retards
I'm no expert on enslavement (perhaps someone else here has studied it), but I know that enslavement is as old as the human race. One example would be the ancient Jews. And I also know that at some point in the 17th, 18th, or 19th century, slavery was common in Europe.Or maybe they justified it by thinking they were actually helping them. Like their primitive lives in Africa was so horrible that being owned by a person in the Americas was a better, more civilized life.
But that's another justification. I think the more obvious answer is people who owned slaves were cruel monsters. And they knew it at the time and just didn't give a shit.
Owning slaves was wrong for the Egyptians. It was certainly wrong for our founding fathers.
One example would be the ancient Jews.