Where do Howard and Sirius_XM stand on a renewal

[Bandit 5160]

I'll admit I'm not the biggest Howard Stern fan out there, but I'd still like for Sirius-XM to keep him around a while longer. He has brought subscribers and might have kept Sirius afloat, I do listen to him every now and then, and it's nice to have him as an option. So what do you know about the situation of trying to negotiate some sort of contract renewal with Stern past this year?

And what might happen to Howard's channels if Howard is NOT back? Will Bubba the Love Sponge possibly start doing more shows on there? There is so much to be determined and so many possibilities.

 

[limegrass69]

Howard is currently in unilateral rhetorical on-air negotiations.

Meaningful negotiations between Howard and Sirius/XM have not been made public.

 

[Kryptonite]

At one point, Bubba was saying that he'd base his decision on what Howard did. Now, it seems like Bubba is tired of Sirius' crap. However, I think that his show needs a national, uncensored, live platform like Sirius where the truckers can listen live.

 

[limegrass69]

Bubba gets mileage out of bitching about Sirius. It's an easy topic that listeners can relate to ( the I hate my boss rant). It's a pretty popular bit that radio personalities have used since Marconi sent the first broadcast signals across the Atlantic Ocean.

 

[beaniemac]

At one point, Bubba was saying that he'd base his decision on what Howard did. Now, it seems like Bubba is tired of Sirius' crap. However, I think that his show needs a national, uncensored, live platform like Sirius where the truckers can listen live.

I agree. sirius is what made him what he is now. he would never have gotten back on terrestrial if it wasn't for sirius, being on howard's channels, and gaining a significant national audience thanks to howard.

 

[GoodDog]

At one point, Bubba was saying that he'd base his decision on what Howard did. Now, it seems like Bubba is tired of Sirius' crap. However, I think that his show needs a national, uncensored, live platform like Sirius where the truckers can listen live.

If Howard leaves Bubba has options.
Buy a BIG cb radio so he can continue to do his shows for truckers
Move him to the trucker channel
Move him to the NASCAR channel.

Lots of places for him to go:jj:

 

[Snoozer]

If they'd let him go uncensored I'd LOVE to hear a 1 hour Bubba NASCAR show. 128 wouldn't let that happen though, too bad.

 

[Chob]

A show that averaged 276,000 listeners a show during the last count in Fall 2007, not counting FM in 2008-2010, will do fine no matter what they decide to do.

I'm guessing they stay on FM, do the podcast/live stream on their own, and sell it to Sirius XM on the cheap, or leave Sirius XM altogether.

 

[Kryptonite]

A show that averaged 276,000 listeners a show during the last count in Fall 2007, not counting FM in 2008-2010, will do fine no matter what they decide to do.

I'm guessing they stay on FM, do the podcast/live stream on their own, and sell it to Sirius XM on the cheap, or leave Sirius XM altogether.

That would be awesome. They could do two shows and be done by noon or so.

 

[JHDK]

A show that averaged 276,000 listeners a show during the last count in Fall 2007, not counting FM in 2008-2010, will do fine no matter what they decide to do.

I'm guessing they stay on FM, do the podcast/live stream on their own, and sell it to Sirius XM on the cheap, or leave Sirius XM altogether.

where did ya get numbers like that? id be fascinated to read about it.

-jhdk

 

[thekingofnicotine]

Howard ain't retiring. He'd be hyping this as his last year if true. His ego is too big to just go out without a celebration.

He sounds like he'd take another contract with Sirius for less hours and less days but then goes on to say he'd kick ass if he was back on FM.

No doubt he would go back to FM if they offered him money.

 

[GoodDog]

Howard in the past use to dedicate large chunks of his shows time during a contract year to whine endlessly about how he isn’t being paid what he is worth and elude to leaving the station(s) and going elsewhere. Day after day, month after month he would pound his agenda in to the airwaves. He has been quite subdued this year talking about his contract.

 

[limegrass69]

Howard in the past use to dedicate large chunks of his shows time during a contract year to whine endlessly about how he isn’t being paid what he is worth and elude to leaving the station(s) and going elsewhere. Day after day, month after month he would pound his agenda in to the airwaves. He has been quite subdued this year talking about his contract.

:scared: You are kidding, right?

 

[GoodDog]

err no I am not kidding, what don't you agree with?

 

[limegrass69]

err no I am not kidding, what don't you agree with?

Hasn't he been doing that for the last 6 months with his pursuit of the American Idol gig, and repeated discussion of going back to terrestrial radio? :blah:

In an attempt to justify his $500 million, hasn't he repeatedly done the on-air math regarding how many millions of subscribers he thinks he has brought to satellite radio, and if it were not for him, both Sirius and XM would be bankrupt? :blah:

Hasn't he said over and over again about how he wants to work less hours? Saying that if he stays at satellite that he wants more control, and that things are "going to change around here?" :blah:

I would not call that subdued...Just my opinion.

 

[GoodDog]

Believe or not, yes the American Idol :bs: is more restrained than earlier Howard. From the get go on KROC in NYC, he would spend hours several times a week if not every day openly whining about his contract and syndication money he wasn't getting because after all Howard invented syndication . with age, standing and money he approaches it differently now but manages to get his point across

 

[limegrass69]

I would agree on that. His negotiating act is much more polished now.

 

[GoodDog]

II know that this has been discussed before but what still makes no sense is the alienation Howard felt from Jackie when he left because of a contract when Howard would pull the equivalent of a toddler temper tantrum on air over his contract. I am not defending Jackie’s actions but given the time and place it seemed like it was every man for himself when it came to contracts with Howard sucking the all the air out of the room. Ancient history now...

 

[limegrass69]

Just like most organization, there is one set of rules for the boss (Howard) and another set of rules for everybody else (Jackie).

I don't know Howard Stern from a hole in the wall, but that's certainly what he emotes on the air. Maybe he's a totally different guy in private.

Nobody (except Jackie and Howard) really knows what actually happened. It did make for some good radio, which is all I really cared about!

 

[GoodDog]

It certainly did make great radio drama and at the end of the day, no one was messing with the gravy train even Jackie.

F Timmy