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IdRatherBeSkiing

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Look who's suddenly an expert on bourbon. :rolleyes:

This is from their website.
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Many whiskeys that qualify as bourbon don't say bourbon on the label, just as many scotches don't say scotch. There's an old wives' tale that bourbon can only come from Kentucky, but Congress recognized bourbon as a "distinctive product of the US" in 1964.

Bourbon is American whiskey that is made from more than 50% corn, and is aged in charred oak barrels for at least 2 years. Jack Daniels uses their own process for making whiskey, which they call "Tennessee whiskey". So perhaps that's where people get the idea that whiskey from Tennessee that doesn't say "bourbon" on the label is not bourbon.
I never claimed to be an expert. But I did noticed Jim Beam said Bourbon and I knew there was some qualifications on what makes Bourbon just like Champagne. I am glad to find that those restrictions are no longer. I have always thought of Whisky as a generic term and Bourbon or Rye or Scotch as the specific. I look for the specific as I do not like Rye or Scotch and Whisky could be anything.
 

scotchandcigar

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More rules than Magic The Gathering.
Bourbon is American whiskey that is made from more than 50% corn, and is aged in charred oak barrels for at least 2 years.
This sounds pretty simple to me: USA + mostly corn + oak barrels.

I never claimed to be an expert. But I did noticed Jim Beam said Bourbon and I knew there was some qualifications on what makes Bourbon just like Champagne. I am glad to find that those restrictions are no longer. I have always thought of Whisky as a generic term and Bourbon or Rye or Scotch as the specific. I look for the specific as I do not like Rye or Scotch and Whisky could be anything.
Yes, for a long time I assumed that bourbon had to come from Bourbon County in Kentucky, just like champagne can only come from that region of France, and scotch can only come from Scotland. And the fact that Jack Daniels is from Tennessee and doesn't call itself bourbon seemed to back that up. But due to the proliferation of bourbon from many parts of the US, that rule/definition was brought to my attention.

You are correct in that whiskey is a class of spirits, and that scotch, bourbon, rye and Irish are specific whiskeys. Of course, there are many specific regions for wine as well.
 

Madison

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My wife and I attended a Gala on Saturday night. She won a fall basket in the silent auction which included a bottle of
Melini 1705 Chianti Borghi. a $20 wine. We will be giving it away, We don't drink and I found someone who appreciates it.
 
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Madison

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Not sure if this fits in this thread but I will be helping to serve Ale tonight at the Senior Center for the AleFest. My wife talked me into it. I just like to go to the Senior Center for the Monday Musical Movie but I owed her a favor.
I'll more likely be a Bar Back. I haven't been a Bar Back since I use to work at a Madison Dance Bar named Bogie's when I was 25. I hope I'm not overwhelmed
 

scotchandcigar

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Whenever we go on vacation, my first stop is always for weekly provisions of drink. Whenever we're in the hotel room, or on the porch/deck/balcony, or at the pool, or the beach, I have the Yeti filled with a sustainable rum punch mix. For the recent Costa Rica trip, this was my only option.

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The only flavored drink that was large enough to go the distance was this Fanta "Kolita". The other bottles of fruit juice were too small. I mixed the Fanta with a popular Nicaraguan rum called Flor de Cana. The restaurant at the hotel (steps from our room) would top-off the Yeti with ice.

Other than cocktails and beers I got at restaurants, this is what I had all week. And here's my review. It wasn't very good. The Fanta has joined the list of drinks I will never have again; along with Southern Comfort, Kahlua, and Sambuca. Of course, you might want to try this for yourself. Or not.
 

scotchandcigar

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My favorite bourbon is going through some tough times. CEO Fawn Weaver, who's now appearing as a judge on Shark Tank, is fighting in court over allegations of unpaid loans. The brand was considered the fastest growing in the US, and was backed by people such as Jay-Z.

Founder’s Hail Mary Attempt to Reclaim $1 Billion Whiskey Empire Blocked by Judge​

A federal judge ruled that Fawn Weaver’s Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing for Uncle Nearest was unauthorized and in direct violation of a prior court order.
 
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