Verizon to ditch phone plans, go with "Share Everything"

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Verizon to ditch phone plans, go with shared plans - Yahoo! Finance

Verizon Wireless, the nation's largest cellphone company, is dropping nearly all of its phone plans in favor of pricing schemes that allow consumers to share data usage among up to ten phones and other devices.

The new plans will let individuals add non-phone devices like tablets and laptops to their plans, as well as the phones of family members.

The change takes effect June 28.

It's the biggest revamp in wireless pricing in years, and one that's likely to be copied by other carriers. AT&T Inc. has already said that it's looking at introducing shared-data plans soon.

Verizon's new "Share Everything" plans include unlimited phone calls and texting, and will start at $90 per month for one smartphone and 1 gigabyte of data. If used only with a smartphone, "Share Everything" prices are lower than for current plans with unlimited calling and texting, but higher than plans with limited calling and texting.

Bigger savings will come for those who add more devices like tablets to their plans. In such cases, the new pricing system will be cheaper compared to getting separate data plans for each device. That gives Verizon a chance to capitalize on the growing popularity of tablets. Few consumers put tablets on data plans, probably because they dread paying an extra $30 or so per month, on top of their phone bills.

Under "Share Everything," adding a tablet to a plan will cost $10 per month. Adding a USB data stick for a laptop will cost $20.

Verizon's limited-calling and texting plans will disappear, except for one $40-per-month plan intended for "dumb" phones. Verizon is keeping its limited-data plans for single non-phone devices, like the $30 tablet plan.

Current Verizon customers will be able to switch to the new plans or keep their old ones, with one exception. Those who have unlimited-data plans for their smartphones won't be able to move those to new phones, unless they pay the full, unsubsidized price for those phones. (For example, an iPhone 4S that costs $200 with a two-year contract costs $650 unsubsidized, with no contract.)

Verizon stopped signing people up for unlimited-data plans last summer. The industry as a whole is moving away from the plans, since the data capacity of their networks is limited.

Under the new plans, subscribers can stop worrying about monitoring the number of calling minutes or text messages their families use in a month, but they'll have to keep a close eye on data consumption. Verizon will allow subscribers to adjust their data allowance from month to month, but if they go over their monthly allotment, that will cost $15 per gigabyte.

The data allowances start at $50 per month for 1 gigabyte. That's enough for prudent two-smartphone users who use Wi-Fi a lot, but Verizon recommends getting 2 gigabytes for $60. After that, each additional 2 gigabytes cost an extra $10 per month.

Under "Share Everything," Verizon will stop charging extra for letting devices act as "mobile Wi-Fi hotspots." That means subscribers who have a recent smartphone could use it to connect a tablet to the Internet, without paying the extra $10 per month for a tablet.

Verizon had telegraphed the move toward shared plans, but had not revealed the details or pricing.

Verizon Wireless is a joint venture of New York-based phone company Verizon Communications Inc. and Vodafone Group PLC, a British cellphone company with wide international interests.
 

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I read all that. Verizon is really going to stick it to people. Looks like I will be back at Sprint the moment they get LTE up and running here in Columbus. It's sad too I really like Verizon.
 

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I almost smell disaster for Verizon? Supposedly AT&T will follow soon, looks like my unlimited data plan will be going bye bye! :(
 

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I read all that. Verizon is really going to stick it to people. Looks like I will be back at Sprint the moment they get LTE up and running here in Columbus. It's sad too I really like Verizon.

I didn't read all of it. How are they sticking it to people?
 

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I didn't read all of it. How are they sticking it to people?
Keep Reading.

They are talking about getting rid of grandfathered and old plans.
Total shit. They should reward those people that have been loyal customers, not fark them.

Looks like I'm scheduled for a solid rogering.
 

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Keep Reading.

They are talking about getting rid of grandfathered and old plans.
Total shit. They should reward those people that have been loyal customers, not fark them.

Looks like I'm scheduled for a solid rogering.

I still can't see that. I see that they will force grandfathered unlimited data plan holders to pay full price for new phones, but I don't see where they will cancel the plans.
 

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I still can't see that. I see that they will force grandfathered unlimited data plan holders to pay full price for new phones, but I don't see where they will cancel the plans.

Here the section of the article:

Current Verizon customers will be able to switch to the new plans or keep their old ones, with one exception. Those who have unlimited-data plans for their smartphones won't be able to move those to new phones, unless they pay the full, unsubsidized price for those phones. (For example, an iPhone 4S that costs $200 with a two-year contract costs $650 unsubsidized, with no contract.)

I understand what you are trying to say, Verizon won't cancel your plan only when you decide to buy a new phone.
 

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I don't have unlimited data I have their double data 5gig = 10 gig plan. I also have my Xoom on a 2gig plan. With discounts from my job I pay about $115 or so that's with insurance on my Razr Maxx and my Xoom also. When and if I switch to newer phone I will have to pay $100 just for the plan and then $40 for my smartphone to have access to that plan plus $10 to add my tablet. My wife was going to jump over as soon as Verizon gets the iPhone 5. That would be an additional $40 a month. So just for me I would be paying $150 plus tax and fees. That's a big increase. I don't need unlimited minutes. There is no option for say the 450 a month I get now.

So what they will do is push me and others into this plan if we upgrade. Basically I will be paying way more to have the same thing I have now.
 

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Whenever I see these news releases I get excited thinking, "Oh, maybe they're changing their plans so it'll somehow benefit me." (Not just Verizon but your general cable or phone companies' releases).. Then I read on and I always come to the same conclusion:

Basically they're increasing the rates but telling me they're buying me roses and chocolates.

I've had one plan, about 20 years ago, that I really liked: pay as you go. Basically it was $10/month for a 'connection fee' (just to be in their system) and then you paid something like $.10/min (a reasonable rate). This in the days of analog - before SMS. It was great, though, because you didn't have to guess as what you were buying or buy some package / feature that you'd never use.

For example, currently my plan is:
- $40/month for 450min voice
- $20/month unlimited SMS
- $30/month for 3GB data
- annoying taxes and fees that aren't going away.

Of that I've never gotten anywhere close to using 450min. I have 'rollover minutes' so I've accumulated several thousand minutes which really have no value because I never hit the minimum number of minutes. It's all stupid. I don't think I've ever crossed over 100min in a month for voice. I rarely use the phone for talking and I never sit on the phone for hours and chat it up. It's $40 to get in the game, though.

For SMS, without thinking about my usage (no personal control of, "Oh, I'm texting too much this month") I think my peak is 800 SMS/month.

For data I'm usually under 1GB/month. The most thinking I do there is "Oh, is there a WAP nearby?"

I'd much prefer a plan like:
- $10 connection fee (base fee for just being connected to their network)
- $.10/min voice
- $.01/SMS
- $.01/MB data

That wouldn't be too far off from what they're charging now -except- I wouldn't be buying capacity that I don't need, want, nor use. My bill would top out at a far more reasonable $40/month (plus annoying taxes and fees) and I'd be a happy customer. If I used more in any particular month I'd just pay more.

I wouldn't be stuck in the silliness of:
- watching my data climb and wondering if I'm about to cross that point to where I buy another 'bulk' of data or be paying some ridiculous $/MB for it.
- buying a bulk of mins for voice that I never use
- buying a bulk (even though it's unlimited) of SMSs that I really don't need.


I know they're not likely to do it but I really wish someone would catch onto that and just go that route. I know there are burner phones that I can buy at Walmart that'll get me somewhat close to this (I may change when my contract is up) but I like having the MicroCell in my apartment so my phone always works. If I were to go to Verizon or Sprint I'd by a similar femtocell. I don't think these devices work with the piggy-backed services like MetroPCS.
 

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9th paragraph:

Current Verizon customers will be able to switch to the new plans or keep their old ones, with one exception. Those who have unlimited-data plans for their smartphones won't be able to move those to new phones, unless they pay the full, unsubsidized price for those phones. (For example, an iPhone 4S that costs $200 with a two-year contract costs $650 unsubsidized, with no contract.)

I read it very slowly, several times. If you pay full price for a new phone, you can keep your unlimited data plan. If you want Verizon to subsidize the price of a new phone, you can't.
 

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9th paragraph:



I read it very slowly, several times. If you pay full price for a new phone, you can keep your unlimited data plan. If you want Verizon to subsidize the price of a new phone, you can't.

How is that not a cell-fucking?

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How is that not a cell-fucking?

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Because you can keep your unlimited data plan by paying full price for your new phones? I dunno. I'm mostly interested in how ti affects new customers. I may be buying my wife a smartphone soon.
 

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How is that not a cell-fucking?

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meme,

I wouldn't mind paying full price for the phone if Verizon did what T Mobile does. T Mobile will let you buy the phone full price and get on their value plans which are around $20 to $25 cheaper. The reason why they are cheaper is because they don't have to subsidize the phone so the plan is cheaper. Verizon and all the other guys say they had to charge this and that for a data plan to help cover their ass when they subsidize a phone. So why should I have to pay out the ass if I buy my phone out right? I would go to T Mobile and go with their value plans if the coverage was a little better.
 
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I'd go back to T-Mobile if they had femtocell.

Their coverage for my old place and the new place wasn't great (not enough cells and not strong enough on the signal).

I did like how they'd put you on a month-to-month place (for less cost) once the subsidizing of your phone was over (you'd have to switch plans, it wasn't automatic).

Made a lot of sense.

In investigating all of this to look at reducing my costs the best I can do is: ~$50/month on AT&T's goPhone deal (pay as you go).

I could get an iPhone (or unlock mine) and put it on goPhone. I lose the visual voice mail deal and use of my MicroCell (could just put that on someone else's AT&T plan and it wouldn't matter).

I think I might just go that route. It'd cut my costs in half. It's dumb that they (AT&T or Verizon) don't just offer plans that would essentially be the goPhone plan but on a normal account so that MicroCell and Visual Voice Mail works.
 

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meme,

I wouldn't mind paying full price for the phone if Verizon did what T Mobile does. T Mobile will let you buy the phone full price and get on their value plans which are around $20 to $25 cheaper. The reason why they are cheaper is because they don't have to subsidize the phone so the plan is cheaper. Verizon and all the other guys say they had to charge this and that for a data plan to help cover their ass when they subsidize a phone. So why should I have to pay out the ass if I buy my phone out right? I would go to T Mobile and go with their value plans if the coverage was a little better.

I understand that. It's clear they want to eliminate unlimited data plans. They were bad business.

The best pay-as-you-go, no contract deal I've seen so far is Virgin's $30/month iPhone deal. You get unlimited data (throttled after 2.5GB), unlimited texting, and 300 minutes, but you have to buy the phone at full price. That seems like a pretty sweet deal.
 

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Because you can keep your unlimited data plan by paying full price for your new phones? I dunno. I'm mostly interested in how ti affects new customers. I may be buying my wife a smartphone soon.

It will effect you/Mrs Bag, when she goes to renew. The whole point of discounted phones is because they make a ton of money off of the contract. Charging an extra $500 penalty for staying loyal to a service provider is obscene. If they actually made the phones and had overhead issues to contend with, that would be one thing, but the whole reason that phones are so expensive is so that they can offer the discount for signing a contract. There are $12 worth of parts in a phone and maybe $4 more in development costs. The $500 discount for signing is an inflated value to leverage people into long term contracts. Now they want to screw you from both ends. I saw that in a movie once. It doesn't look very fun at all.
 

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It will effect you/Mrs Bag, when she goes to renew. The whole point of discounted phones is because they make a ton of money off of the contract. Charging an extra $500 penalty for staying loyal to a service provider is obscene. If they actually made the phones and had overhead issues to contend with, that would be one thing, but the whole reason that phones are so expensive is so that they can offer the discount for signing a contract. There are $12 worth of parts in a phone and maybe $4 more in development costs. The $500 discount for signing is an inflated value to leverage people into long term contracts. Now they want to screw you from both ends. I saw that in a movie once. It doesn't look very fun at all.

First, no. The iPhone parts alone cost $188. Development, marketing, assembly and Apple's profit are all in line for consumer electronics. They don't jack the price up to help carriers get contracts. Apple would charge $650 for them anyway.

Second, my wife doesn't have an unlimited data plan, so she won't have to worry about losing it when she buys a new phone. I'm thinking about just buying a phone anyway, and going without a contract. It looks cheaper from the data I can find.