Aaron's song of the day

scotchandcigar said:
In Britain, the band McFly had a number 1 single covering the song in 2006.
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Holy shit! They had 20 top 10 hits in the UK 2004-2013?? I just heard them for the first time a few years ago with "Where Did The Guitars Go" and assumed they were just another brand new post-grunge band from Podunk, WHerever. I had no idea they were gigantic!
scotchandcigar said:
The song was performed on a 2013 episode of Glee. IMO, this is where the resurgence started.
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This fuckin' show. Not only did I not like anything from it that crossed my path back in the day. But they brought back so many mostly-forgotten songs I never needed to hear again into daily rotation around the world.
scotchandcigar said:
You have to hand it to him; he wrote some pretty fucking good songs, and he's one of the best contemporary pianists around.
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Totally agree. Love Joel. But that video still cracks me up every time. Especially "And remember Billy has an album named 'An Innocent Man', which is very funny."
Aaron said:
I gather he’s calling Billy Joel derivative. I get it, but total respect for Billy Joel and his career.
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See above.
Aaron said:
Led Zeppelin also, people mock them for having “borrowed” the Stairway riff.
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Love Zep. But they also "borrowed" to create every song except one on their debut album. This article says 3 of the songs were Zep originals. But I read an article years ago that pinned two more of the songs as being ripped off as well.
 
sadchild said:
Love Zep. But they also "borrowed" to create every song except one on their debut album. This article says 3 of the songs were Zep originals. But I read an article years ago that pinned two more of the songs as being ripped off as well.
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I have a friend who has a bug up his ass about this. Calls them rip-off artists. But I think he just doesn't like that type of music, and is using this as an excuse.

IMO, Led Zep is unabashedly rooted in old blues. But how is that any different than the Beatles or the Stones? Look at Jethro Tull. They use baroque classical music as a basis for many of their hits. To me, that's the appeal of these bands. They bring music to the masses in a way that's exciting for rock music fans.
 
I love Zep (well, I like what I like of theirs). I think being inspired by previous artists is how music evolves. But when it's clearly just a rip-off, I get turned off.
 
Aaron said:
I gather he’s calling Billy Joel derivative. I get it, but total respect for Billy Joel and his career. Try writing one hit song or album, much less countless hits.
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Amen. He's got his style and habits and knows how to get songs from idea to tape. He knows that he's got fans that want to buy albums that sound like him, so there is a lot of incentive for him to stay with his brand.
Aaron said:
The Eagles also get that label, but I’m thinking 99+% of musicians who ever lived would sell their soul to have written One of These Nights, Hotel California, or Desperado, whether they care to admit that or not.
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I'd admit it. I'd go a lot lower than those bands. It would be cool as hell to have had anything that became a radio hit, even if it wasn't what I'd personally consider a great song by my own standards. Let me record a Tubthumping that people love to hate but it makes them happy and they remember it, and I'd be proud as hell.
sadchild said:
Love Zep. But they also "borrowed" to create every song except one on their debut album.
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EVERYBODY did it back then. Everything sounded like everything else.
scotchandcigar said:
IMO, Led Zep is unabashedly rooted in old blues. But how is that any different than the Beatles or the Stones? Look at Jethro Tull. They use baroque classical music as a basis for many of their hits.
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It all comes from somewhere else, and it wasn't until the lawyers got involved and people realized that there was a point that a song could sound too much like another that it it wasn't cool. It's the way that the music scene was back then.
 
sadchild said:
I never need to hear another 12-bar blues song.
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And that reminds me of an unpopular opinion of mine. I haven't liked Bob Dylan since the 60s or early 70s. He did a few things after that, then went away for a while. But then he came back and hung around, with his endless variations on 12-bar blues, and that horrible voice. And everyone thinks it's the most wonderful stuff ever. I just don't get it.
 
I agree with Mister scotch. Dylan's voice wasn't all that great in the 1960s – and it got progressively worse over the following decades. I have the 2009 British compilation The Essential Bob Dylan. The 36 tracks are in chronological order. CD #1 goes from Blowin' In The Wind to Forever Young. CD #2 goes from Shelter From The Storm to Beyond Here Lies Nothin'. I've played the first CD many times. I've played the second CD only once.

Here is See That My Grave Is Kept Clean from Bob Dylan's 1962 debut album, cleverly titled Bob Dylan. It is not on The Essential Bob Dylan. This was written by Blind Lemon Jefferson, who recorded the song in 1927.

 
I’ve never been a Dylan fan. The voice is too pitchy and nasally, and I’m not a fan of the acoustic protest vibe.

He’s got a couple that wouldn’t be bad if they were sung in key, but I’m a firm pass.
All this is coming from a Rush fan!
 
sadchild said:
I have The Doors, Scotch has Dylan.
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Well, not exactly. You hated the Doors always, including the #1 hits and all their multi-platinum albums. I like or appreciate Dylan's 60s songs and a couple of his 70s songs. But while his newer albums sold well, none of the songs charted, because they suck. IMO they sold well because of the hype around him as the 2nd coming of the messiah.

But you pick any 60s or 70s #1 Billboard pop hit artist, and there's a 50/50 chance I hate them.
 
Well then I guess it's "I have The Doors, and I have Dylan". I can't think of a song of his I like. I especially hate the "everybody must get stoned" song. Though he does have some lyrics I like, which puts him above The Doors. And I like some of the covers of his songs:

RHCP "Subterranean Homesick Blues"
Indigo Girls "Tangled Up In Blue"
Byrds "Mr Tambourine Man"
and Hendrix "Watchtower" is a good song but I don't really listen to him much.

Comedian John Fox: "Who the fuck told Bob Dylan he could sing?!"
 
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It's nice having the college only an hour away. Makes a huge difference. My kid got an award from a school 3 hours away and I was dreading that.
 
Red Rider, formed in 1975 in Toronto, was originally singer/keyboardist Peter Boynton, guitarist Ken Greer, guitarist Arvo Lepp, bassist Jon Checkowski and drummer Rob Baker. In 1978, Tom Cochrane joined as lead singer, Jeff Jones joined as bassist and Lepp and Checkowski left the group, Jones had been a member of Ocean, best known for the 1971 top-ten hit Put Your Hand In The Hand. Red Rider had six top-40 hits in Canada. Only two made the Billboard Hot 100 – but they had seven top-40 hits on the mainstrream rock chart. Lunatic Fringe reached #11 but did not chart in Canada. Go figure! Here is a live performance at the Ritz in New York City, 1986:



And here is the history of the Ritz, known for its mirrored walls and marble staircases:

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Remembering the Ritz - Village Preservation

There are a number of legendary rock venues in our neighborhood, many an integral part of the 1980s NYC club scene. One of the leading ones was 'The Ritz,' located in Webster Hall, designated a New York City landmark in 2008, on East 11th Street between Third and Fourth Avenues. The Ritz opened...
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