All Things Disney - Except Movies

Here's another fun Disney thing I spend way too much time thinking about. (Also I see I started a new page and assume you all use the same settings as I so don't miss that last post w/the video of flying Spiderman because it's incredibly cool.)

This is new mixed with old tech. Pepper's Ghost. It's like an 1800's mirror trick where off stage there are actors or mannequins that are projected onto the stage through the use of mirrors and lighting tricks. It makes them appear transparent. It's how they do the dinner/dancing scene in the Haunted Mansion. Well that and they're real ghosts because the Haunted Mansion is really haunted. "999 happy haunts, but there's always room for 1 more"...bitches.

Well now, Disney has upped the Pepper's Ghost game. Kinda overdue seeing how it's like 1850's tech. They did it in like 2002 in the OG Anaheim Disneyland when they added the Pooh ride but that one kinda sucks. Recently they did it in the Shanghai and Tokyo Disneylands and it's basically mind blowing.

Here it is in the Tokyo Beauty and the Beast ride that opened less than a year ago. It should start at the correct time but if not FF to 4:27.



BOOM! So the Beast turns into the prince. Beast is Pepper's Ghost. Then they throw a bunch of lighting effects on it and slowly turn off the offstage lighting that creates the effect. As the same time they are doing that, they also raise the prince animatronic from under the stage so as soon as the Pepper's lighting is 100% off, the prince appears. Freaking cool! They can make one thing turn into another thing in front of our eyes.

I don't care if I can logically explain it. We all know the real reason it happens is because Walt Disney was somehow able to make our planet a place where magic is real and wholesome fantasies can live in our hearts. That shit inspires millions and once it infects you, it's wonderfully incurable.

And I know this sounds like a joke but it's not when I say I've watched that video through so many times I'm pretty sure I can now sing the vast majority of "Something There" in Japanese.
 
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This is interesting:

www.dailymail.co.uk

How greedy Disneyland is pricing out its most loyal customers

A Disney vacation will now set a family of four back more than $6,000 for just five days, while the average annual income in America now stands at $68,703 - or $5,725 each month.
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It's no surprise to anyone that Disney is expensive. They have charged crazy prices at least since the Eisner era. And yea, they are charging more for stuff now. Chapek through the plague learned that people are will to pay just as much for fewer services. He even stated in an investor meeting that while attendance was down, the people who did come spent more in the parks than ever before.

Also I hate the idea of real life paid DLC like they are doing for the Spidey ride in CA. You can buy some toy you put on your arm that helps you do better on the ride.

But at the same time, they have not priced out the average person who saves for a yearly family vacation. The article is thinking everyone stays on property and eats all on-site food. If you are some family in like South Dakota or wherever and really need to budget you can make it so that the park tickets and airfare are the only 2 major expenses. Right outside the parks there are super cheap motels and food. I stay in the shittiest/cheapest motel possible and they still provide a free shuttle to the parks daily so you don't even need to rent a car or Uber.
 
When Disneyland opened in July 1955, parking cost 25¢ and admission was $1 for an adult, 75¢ for a junior and 50¢ for a child. Ticket books (for eight rides) cost $2.50 for an adult, $2 for a junior and $1.50 for a child.

In 2019, Disneyland raised the parking rate to $25, an increase of $5 over the previous year. Theme park admission was raised to $129 for an adult and $122 for a child. Admission on a "peak day" – weekends and holidays – rose to $149 for an adult and $141 for a child. In February 2020, peak day admission for an adult rose another $5, to $154. By the way, Disneyland considers anyone age 10 or older to be an "adult."

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How much could Disneyland tickets cost in 2030, 2040 and 2055?

This is what would happen if prices continue to rise at the rate they have over the past two decades.
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Well yea, when it was brand new they had to attract people. It was more like a fair back then, where like you said, people bought tickets for each ride. I can't think of a time when I've been in a park where I didn't have at least $100 worth of fun...and I go like 20 times a year. Thank God WDW didn't get rid of annual passes like Disneyland did. That would be a nightmare.
 
JHDK said:
Well yea, when it was brand new they had to attract people. It was more like a fair back then, where like you said, people bought tickets for each ride. I can't think of a time when I've been in a park where I didn't have at least $100 worth of fun...and I go like 20 times a year. Thank God WDW didn't get rid of annual passes like Disneyland did. That would be a nightmare.
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I can never see having $149 worth of fun there particularly since that doesn't even include rides. When I was last there in 1975 (Disney World in 1979) each day my parents would give me and my sister a ticket pack which had various number of A-E tickets. We would plan our fun accordingly. I can't remember if we had 1 or 2 ticket packs. It seemed to me I rode Space Mountain more than what was in the ticket pack. If that was today, we wouldn't have gone.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing said:
I can never see having $149 worth of fun there particularly since that doesn't even include rides
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What do you mean? There are no ticket books anymore. You pay the door fee then all attractions in the parks are included. You still have to buy food and souvenirs and shit like that but if you're like me you never do. I pay a flat fee of like $360 per year. But I do get the FL resident discount and it is only a weekday pass and in reality it's not exactly annual. I'm blacked out for about 3 months of the year. Even still it's well worth it for me. Like I've said, I renewed in March and I've definitely already paid off the pass and probably already doubled it by now.

They have deals all the time. A regular/working class family of 4 can afford to make it a yearly vacation if they stay off property. Buy a weekly park hopper (the daily prices decline the more days you buy in a row) and let each kid get like 1 souvenir and you can have like a week of fun days in the parks, doing all the rides, for an expensive yet not completely unaffordable price. All it takes is like a couple hours of research and you can plan a WDW family vacation that will be pricy but won't break the bank.
 
scotchandcigar said:
Everyone complains about the cost, but it's still overflowing with visitors. It's just supply and demand.
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Yep. Unfortunately that's true.
It's grown past being a park for everyday families.
Keep raising prices till you're almost not at capacity every day, and the shareholders will stay happy.
 
HecticArt said:
Keep raising prices till you're almost not at capacity every day,
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You see this is flawed. Even pre-plague times they almost never reach 100% capacity except for like Christmas and New Year's.

Walt Disney World Resort

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Look, a 4 day ticket winds up being like $70/day. That x4=$1120. So $1120 is the price for a family of 4 to have 4 days of park hopping. Add in off site lodging (and I'm going to assume they want to stay at a place double what I pay for my shit motel) and that's another $84/night. So $84x4=336

So we have 4 days of park hopping and 4 nights in a mo/hotel for under $1500. IDK about airfare so I don't know how to factor that in but let's just say it's another 1k.

Now we're looking at $2500.

We have to add in food and incidentals...another $500.

So This is me doing 5 mins of research and I have a family of 4 spending 4 days at the parks and 4 nights at a hotel for 3k.

I don't think that is a ridiculous amount to have as a goal for savings for a yearly family vacation.

If I cared enough I bet I could get that number down with more planning.
 
And yea, Disney wants to pump you for all you're worth. I'm just saying average people can make it work if that is the goal.
 
JHDK said:
What do you mean? There are no ticket books anymore. You pay the door fee then all attractions in the parks are included. You still have to buy food and souvenirs and shit like that but if you're like me you never do. I pay a flat fee of like $360 per year. But I do get the FL resident discount and it is only a weekday pass and in reality it's not exactly annual. I'm blacked out for about 3 months of the year. Even still it's well worth it for me. Like I've said, I renewed in March and I've definitely already paid off the pass and probably already doubled it by now.

They have deals all the time. A regular/working class family of 4 can afford to make it a yearly vacation if they stay off property. Buy a weekly park hopper (the daily prices decline the more days you buy in a row) and let each kid get like 1 souvenir and you can have like a week of fun days in the parks, doing all the rides, for an expensive yet not completely unaffordable price. All it takes is like a couple hours of research and you can plan a WDW family vacation that will be pricy but won't break the bank.
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I was not aware that was the all inclusive price. I thought that was just admission.
 
JHDK said:
You see this is flawed. Even pre-plague times they almost never reach 100% capacity except for like Christmas and New Year's.
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It’s flawed from the perspective of families without a lot of disposable income, it’s good business from Disney’s perspective. It’s what businesses do to be profitable.

Those self-storage unit places have a formula for their pricing. I dont remember the actual numbers, but it’s something like if they have less than 33% of their units available, they aren’t charging enough rent. (It’s a weirdly high percentage for that kind of an operation.) I assume Disney has a similar formula. If they are at 100% and a family spends $X when they are there, they can make more money if they raise prices by $10 and only have 95% capacity. (Or something like that.)

I think that’s why they built a few other parks. If they can capture that Disney magic at more locations, even better.
 
Of course. Disney is going to make their prices as high as possible before it makes their daily attendance start to decline.

Going to Disney is a premium/luxury experience. Everyone knows that. Families save for vacations and it is a place that is worth saving to experience.

I was lucky as a kid that my folks were able to take me every year and my mom was a fanatic like I am now. She even convinced my dad to buy into their Vacation Club (timeshare) so we had a destination every single year. They work on a point system...like 1 night at your home resort is 100 points or whatever. You buy an allotment of points and can use them however you want, at any resort, but the home resort is always the most reasonable. It was also a really nice gift my parents gave their friends and family. "Merry Christmas, here's 4 nights at Disney on us" or whatever.

I'm lucky now too. I am not in the same income bracket as that of my parents but since I live so close and I budget and plan I am able to go like 20 times a year. It really is delightful.
 
Milton Berle occasionally opened a stage show or a television program by saying, "Hello, everyone. I'd call you ladies and gentlemen but you know what you are." In 2021, Walt Disney World is likewise refusing to acknowledge "ladies" and "gentlemen" – and "boys" and "girls."

Walt Disney World has removed the 'Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls' greeting from its Magic Kingdom fireworks show

www.insider.com

Disney World has removed the 'Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls' greeting from its Magic Kingdom fireworks show

Disney parkgoers are usually welcomed to the "Happily Ever After" fireworks show with a greeting that says "Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls."
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Channel98 said:
Milton Berle occasionally opened a stage show or a television program by saying, "Hello, everyone. I'd call you ladies and gentlemen but you know what you are." In 2021, Walt Disney World is likewise refusing to acknowledge "ladies" and "gentlemen" – and "boys" and "girls."

Walt Disney World has removed the 'Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls' greeting from its Magic Kingdom fireworks show

www.insider.com

Disney World has removed the 'Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls' greeting from its Magic Kingdom fireworks show

Disney parkgoers are usually welcomed to the "Happily Ever After" fireworks show with a greeting that says "Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls."
www.insider.com www.insider.com
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"Hey Suckers! ...."
 
the magic kingdom blows shit up in the sky while also wowing us with a castle

pretty much as close to real life life magic as we're ever gonna get.

 
HecticArt said:
Sometimes the Carousel of Progress turns slowly.
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its a great big beautiful tomorrow.
and
shining at the end of every day.

thats my number 1 fav Disney ride in in all he parks btw.

im kinda a disney guy..you all know this is my thing right?

 
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