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Former staff complained it was too hot in summer and too cold in winter. The lack of sound insulation was also a regular complaint. The sound of feet on the metal staircases reverberated around the building.

Architects didn't know about these things back in the 90s?
 
sadchild said:
Former staff complained it was too hot in summer and too cold in winter. The lack of sound insulation was also a regular complaint. The sound of feet on the metal staircases reverberated around the building.

Architects didn't know about these things back in the 90s?
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They obviously like that sort of thing. They voted it best!
 
scotchandcigar said:
www.bbc.com

Salford: Britain's 'best new building of 1996' to be demolished

Salford University's award-winning Centenary Building has been vacant for the past eight years.
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I saw that. What a shame. A massive waste of money.
sadchild said:
Former staff complained it was too hot in summer and too cold in winter. The lack of sound insulation was also a regular complaint. The sound of feet on the metal staircases reverberated around the building.

Architects didn't know about these things back in the 90s?
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We knew, and my firms always tried to avoid those problems.

My guess is that they sold the client on a cool design and then found out that they were way over budget. They probably made cuts to everything that didn't look cool.

I tell my clients that a design is a failure if they can't afford it, it doesn't function properly, or it doesn't look good.
There shouldn't be any reason that you can't do all three. It probably won't make it on the cover of a magazine if you aren't working with much money though.
IdRatherBeSkiing said:
They obviously like that sort of thing. They voted it best!
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But it looked great in the magazine pictures. :dunno1
.......and you can't hear people on the stairs in magazines either.
 
HecticArt said:
We knew, and my firms always tried to avoid those problems.

My guess is that they sold the client on a cool design and then found out that they were way over budget. They probably made cuts to everything that didn't look cool.

I tell my clients that a design is a failure if they can't afford it, it doesn't function properly, or it doesn't look good.
There shouldn't be any reason that you can't do all three. It probably won't make it on the cover of a magazine if you aren't working with much money though.
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I'm going to choose to forget that I read this because it makes you seem like you know what you're doing and are at least somewhat professional. And that's no fun and ruins my whole narrative about Toledo architects.


HecticArt said:
it looked great in the magazine pictures.
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Instead, I'm going to continue to believe this is how you pick out designs and draw up blueprints and all. That makes me feel a lot better.
 
In 2004, Tom Searle co-founded the metalcore band Architects in Brighton, England. He picked the name because it wan't a "typical" name for a metal band. Mister Hectic can feel flattered. Or not. They've released ten albums. Searle died in 2016. Here is their beautiful, sentimental, heartfelt ballad Black Lungs:

 
They rock!

From my collection:
Architects - Black Lungs.mp3
Architects - Little Wonder.mp3
Architects - Meteor.mp3
Architects - Tear Gas.mp3
Architects - When We Were Young.mp3
 
scotchandcigar said:
www.boston.com

Yankee Candle founder's resort-like mansion could be transformed into 55+ and affordable housing

Late Yankee Candle founder Michael J. Kittredge II's Juggler Meadow estate is the proposed site of a 55+ community with affordable housing.
www.boston.com
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All right without looking it up. I'm like 87% sure this story is true but remember that time when George Lucas wanted to turn his Star wars ranch into like project housing. And all the rich people in whatever area the ranch is in voted it down. It's kind of funny
 
Hey hectic, how much do you know about the actual building process? Maybe I sound stupid here, but as an architect you can figure out exactly how everything should be built and I assume that means you have a pretty good understanding of how all the construction works.

I was on an overpass getting on 95 from somewhere in West Palm Beach a couple months ago and I took a second to kind of marvel at how amazing it was that I was four stories above the ground merging onto a highway. And how I would pretty much never be able to figure out how to build that on my own even if you gave me all the materials, crew and all the time in the world.

So if I gave you all the materials, crew and everything needed to build The Empire State building you think you could get it done on your own? And I'm talking with all the time in the world... But none of the crew could do anything at all unless you instructed them to do it.

You think you could get it built?
 
JHDK said:
So if I gave you all the materials, crew and everything needed to build The Empire State building you think you could get it done on your own? And I'm talking with all the time in the world... But none of the crew could do anything at all unless you instructed them to do it.
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Well, generally yes.

I know how it all goes together. I have to draw up all of the details and tell the engineers how I need their systems to perform and fit into the buildings. They will do their own details like exact sizes of rebar, duct sizes, wire sizes, and whatnot. If they tell me that a beam is too big to fit where I need it, I have to know enough to work through options to either get the beam to fit, or how to adjust the design to compensate for what they need.

I go to construction meetings for my projects and work with the contractors to make sure that it’s getting built as intended, answer questions that come up, deal with site problems, and make adjustments as needed.

The reality of what contractors need to know to get a building built is really impressive. They need to know everything, how it all fits together, What to do first, second, and on and on.

So I’m not a civil engineer, mechanical, structural, etc, but I work with them all every day and know the basics of what they do. I’ve done projects that have concrete or steel framed bridges / pedestrian bridges. I know how the formwork, staging, and construction cranes have to work in order for them to build it. So if it’s impossible for them to get a crane into an area, or a wrench on a bolt or whatever, you might not be able to build it unless you can figure out another way. So construction methods are important to know.

It‘s all part of why I love doing what I do. It’s great working with all of these different people, figuring out how to make it all work, learning new stuff every day, and hopefully having something lasting to to show for it.
 
That actually does sound quite interesting. It's like a not boring puzzle you get to and both create and then figure out how to put together.

HecticArt said:
I’m not a civil engineer, mechanical, structural, etc, but I work with them all every day and know the basics of what they do. I’ve done projects that have concrete or steel framed bridges / pedestrian bridges. I know how the formwork, staging, and construction cranes have to work in order for them to build it.
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So from what you're saying here, whether it's the Empire State building or a major highway overpass, it seems like it would be very difficult for you to do it all on your own, with zero input from anyone else, but with all the time in the world you could get it done.

That's very cool.

Also I'm being too nice and actually talking about how your job is cool, this feels wrong. My whole moral compass has been compromised ever since I had to root for Dallas last Sunday.
 
JHDK said:
That actually does sound quite interesting. It's like a not boring puzzle you get to and both create and then figure out how to put together.
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That’s one of the things I love about it. No 2 projects or even days are the same. Sometimes it’s the fun of dreaming up something that (hopefully) looks cool, some days it’s solving the puzzle of how it goes together, some days it’s schmoozing with clients, some days it’s filling out boring-ass reports, or tedious building code research, or whatever, but it keeps it fresh.
JHDK said:
So from what you're saying here, whether it's the Empire State building or a highway, it seems like it would be very difficult for you to do it all on your own, with zero input from anyone else, but with all the time in the world you could get it done.
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Nobody does it all on their own at least for bigger projects. I wouldn’t want to do it by myself anyway. I like the interaction.
JHDK said:
That's very cool.
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I nerd out on it.
JHDK said:
Also I'm being too nice and actually talking about how your job is cool, this feels wrong. My whole moral compass has been compromised ever since I had to root for Dallas last Sunday.
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:roflmao:
 
HecticArt said:
Sometimes it’s the fun of dreaming up something that (hopefully) looks cool,
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Interesting. So there's a straight up creative element to what you do? I just assumed if you were building a pedestrian bridge of course there's going to be obstacles that make its planning unique to where it's being built, but otherwise it's just a bridge. You borrow what everyone else has been doing for centuries in terms of its architecture.

So how creative can you really get? Do they ever ask you personally to create something original? Or is it like youre hired by someone with wild ideas and then you try to figure out if they're possible. Or is it more like you can add artistic or stylistic elements to a framework that has been well established and you know is going to work?
 
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