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Among his many accomplishments, John Bidwell founded the town of Chico, ran for Governor of California – twice – and produced California's first successful raisin crop. He and his wife Annie had no children.

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JOHN BIDWELL

In 1841 at the age of 22, John Bidwell became one of the first pioneers to cross the Sierra Nevada to California. Bidwell became deeply involved in the development of his adopted state, its...
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I'd like to know who paid for generating a 51-page report.

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Boston City Hall one step closer to historic landmark designation

The Landmarks Commission voted in favor of protecting City Hall and recognizing its historic status. Approval from Mayor Wu and City Council is still needed.
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The historic landmark designation process started in 2007. Last year, the Commission released a 51-page report detailing almost every aspect of the building and recommending that it receive historic landmark designation.

“While popular opinion has not always looked favorably on the building, Boston City Hall is widely recognized as architecturally significant and as a bold example of Brutalist architecture”.
 
scotchandcigar said:
I'd like to know who paid for generating a 51-page report.

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Boston City Hall one step closer to historic landmark designation

The Landmarks Commission voted in favor of protecting City Hall and recognizing its historic status. Approval from Mayor Wu and City Council is still needed.
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The historic landmark designation process started in 2007. Last year, the Commission released a 51-page report detailing almost every aspect of the building and recommending that it receive historic landmark designation.

“While popular opinion has not always looked favorably on the building, Boston City Hall is widely recognized as architecturally significant and as a bold example of Brutalist architecture”.
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I'm shocked that the report was less than 400 pages.
 
The Zane Grey Estate in Altadena, California, was designed by architects Elmer Grey and Myron Hunt and was was built in 1907. It was home to Western author Zane Grey – no relation to Elmer Grey – from 1920 until his death in 1939. Built of reinforced concrete, the home was considered to be fireproof. It was destroyed in the Eaton fire, which began January 7, has burned more than 14,000 acres and today is only 27% contained.

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scotchandcigar said:
I was going to ask our resident architect if concrete houses are fireproof. Guess I got my answer.
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I think the concrete is but there is always other stuff in a house that wouldn't be.

I think the rebar inside the concrete may lose it's structure if the temperature gets too high. Not sure what that temperature is or if that was the case.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing said:
I think the concrete is but there is always other stuff in a house that wouldn't be.

I think the rebar inside the concrete may lose it's structure if the temperature gets too high. Not sure what that temperature is or if that was the case.
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All of the furnishings and finishes are likely to burn. The heat from just those can get crazy intense. I don't know how that place was built, but I'm guessing the roof may have been wood.

I've never heard of concrete "melting" but there are a host of structural properties that degrade that make it lose its strength.
Generally though, concrete is about the closest thing there is to a fireproof material.
 
Janes Village is a historic neighborhood in northwest Altadena. Many of the English- and Spanish-style cottages built between 1924 and 1926 were destroyed in last month's Eaton fire. In the 1920s, Elisha Paul Janes was thought to be a famous architect. He was actually a con artist who had been sued several times and indicted once and was often on the run from the law.

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Many Popular Houses in L.A. Were Part of a Scam by a Con Artist Who Disappeared

Yet the homes are still in high demand.
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HecticArt said:
All of the furnishings and finishes are likely to burn. The heat from just those can get crazy intense. I don't know how that place was built, but I'm guessing the roof may have been wood.

I've never heard of concrete "melting" but there are a host of structural properties that degrade that make it lose its strength.
Generally though, concrete is about the closest thing there is to a fireproof material.
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Concrete will burn if it is surrounded by Florine gas. It just won't burn with O2 (one of the few things that won't).
 
Canadians add the letter "u" to "labor," "honor" and many other words but omit the "u" from "fluorine." Go figure!

This is from Google: "Fluorine is a highly reactive, pale yellow gas with a pungent odor, considered the most electronegative element on the periodic table, and is often found in compounds like fluorides, most notably used in the form of fluoride to prevent tooth decay when added to toothpaste and sometimes drinking water."

In 2022, a fluoride spill at an Illinois water treatment plant ate holes in the concrete. Here is the story. And now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to drink a glass of fluoridated water. Fluoridated water is perfectly safe! Honest!

 
This is for Mister Hectic:

Pearls Before Swine Comic Strip for September 26, 2020
 
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