The Police Thread

I know that you've been through more than any of us can ever really understand. I know that you've seen some of the worst things that people can do to each other and had to do things that most of us couldn't, and that this is very personal for you. Just try to to keep the conversation from getting too spirited.

Absolutely. When it comes to being a soldier, I shut my mouth when Ehilbert is speaking.
 
17 is hard to imagine without a reload.

Most police carry .45 ACP....10 to 11 rounds usually. You can squeeze 17 into a 9mm magazine but if you're not in the FBI, I doubt you're using that caliber. Weird.....
 
Oh, and there are a few "funny" quotes in Law Enforcement concerning how many times to shoot to neutralize.

Two that come to mind:
You don't shoot until you think they're dead; you shoot until they think they're dead.

2) Cop 1 to cop 2: Hey, Frank, why'd you shoot him 10 times? Cop 2: 'Cause those were all the bullets I had.
 
Ehilbert, I'm never going to be in the military or be a cop. Or an accountant, an opera singer or play first base for the Mets. And for that matter, you'll never be a cop, either, so don't give me the "I don't know" bit. You don't either. I am who I am. You are who you are. So let's move past that.

You have a very strong opinion that police officers have the right to kill or be killed. I say they don't. A police officer taking someone's life has failed. They aren't at war with the public. Soldiers, however, have that right. They're at war with an enemy. Two different jobs.

We don't agree. That's fine by me.


I was an MP for almost 3 years when I started my military career. I was a cop. I still got lied to almost every day and I had a gun pulled on me twice. So yes I do know.

We can agree to disagree. I like you casual but you don't know what it's like to put your life on the line every day.


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The truth is I never said or thought a cop has the right to kill. If their being shot at and they won't give up then yes. You have the right to protect yourself. That is what I have always ment. I'm not about just killing criminals.


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How would you know that?? We pulled people over gave out tickets. Had a gun in my face by one asshole. Stopped some people from breaking into some houses. Took down some drunks for disorderly conducting. Had a gun pulled on me breaking up a fight. My partner and I seen a lot of shit man.

I decided to move on and go combat. I've had just about every training you can have besides SEAL. They will let you go through SEAL training as a Marine but there is no bling and no recognition. You have to leave and join the Navy for that.I would never do that. I've went through Army ranger training, Army jump school and became a certified combat diver. All on my own time to move up fast. I'm not some chump. I did all to become an FBI agent one day.

I'm really going to stop here. I feel like your putting me down now. I don't want to ruin the decent relationship we have here. As MP's you don't just guard shit like you see in the movies. You train like a real cop. You have no idea.

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Yeah, I'll concede that it's probably pretty close to the same in a lot of ways. But a police department isn't a military organization, and that's a big difference.
 
Ehil, it DID take me a number of posts to catch on that you were talking about after the bullets start flying. No further questions are needed from me.

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Asset seizures fuel police spending | The Washington Post

...police departments and drug task forces across the country are benefiting from laws that allow them to take cash and property without proving a crime has occurred.

Scores of departments spent money on vehicles. Many of them were typical police cruisers, but dozens were new and used sports and luxury cars, including at least 15 Mercedes, a dozen Mustangs, a handful of BMWs and two Corvettes.

“All of this is fundamentally at odds with the U.S. Constitution...All of this is at odds with the rights that Americans have.”

"Law enforcement" is out of control. It's no wonder they feel entitled to shoot dogs and black kids.
 
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Again?
 
If the assets were acquired illegally and that's shown in court, then the government (state, federal or local and not necessarily the police dept.) should be able to liquidate them and keep the money. But they shouldn't be able to just take your stuff and rent a clown. Hookers, maybe. But not a clown.
 
This will be the one thread for all criticism/critique/praise/defense of the police, and any news stories, etc.

Thanks,

CF
 
i was about to say u should change the name then, but i see uve already done it. good job.
 
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