Broken Chart
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Sherbet is NOT and NEVER WILL BE ice cream.
On the Hot 100 chart w/e July 22 2023, 22 of the positions were occupied by the 22 songs from Taylor Swift's re-recorded album, Speak Now (Taylor's Version), which was originally released in 2010.
#5 "I Can See You"
#15 "Mine"
#16 "Back To December"
#19 "Enchanted"
#22 "Sparks Fly"
#26 "Dear John"
#31 "Castles Crumbling"
#33 "Speak Now"
#34 "When Emma Falls In Love"
#35 "Electric Touch"
#39 "Mean"
#40 "Foolish One"
#42 "The Story Of Us"
#48 "Timeless"
#50 "Haunted"
#53 "Long Live"
#57 "Last Kiss"
#58 "Never Grow Up"
#63 "Innocent"
#69 "Ours"
#74 "Superman"
Does this break all a bunch of previous records? Has she outdone Elvis? The Beatles? Madonna? Elton John? Mariah Carey? Michael Jackson? Whitney Houston?
Not in my book. INVALID!
Broken chart!
#5 "I Can See You"
#15 "Mine"
#16 "Back To December"
#19 "Enchanted"
#22 "Sparks Fly"
#26 "Dear John"
#31 "Castles Crumbling"
#33 "Speak Now"
#34 "When Emma Falls In Love"
#35 "Electric Touch"
#39 "Mean"
#40 "Foolish One"
#42 "The Story Of Us"
#48 "Timeless"
#50 "Haunted"
#53 "Long Live"
#57 "Last Kiss"
#58 "Never Grow Up"
#63 "Innocent"
#69 "Ours"
#74 "Superman"
Does this break all a bunch of previous records? Has she outdone Elvis? The Beatles? Madonna? Elton John? Mariah Carey? Michael Jackson? Whitney Houston?
Not in my book. INVALID!
Broken chart!
In the super-narrow-cast world of the Hot 100, this makes perfect sense. If the system was tailored to the right market when U2's Zooropa came out, there'd be about a dozen tracks from that album on the chart.
Who is wondering what were the ten best-selling recordings 100 years ago today, September 1, 1923? Nobody? Okay, here they are:
1. Yes! We Have No Bananas – Billy Jones
2. Swingin' Down The Lane – Isham Jones
3. Yes! We Have No Bananas – Great White Way Orchestra
4. Yes! We Have No Bananas – Ben Selvin/Irving Kaufman
5. Down Hearted Blues – Bessie Smith
6. Morning Will Come – Al Jolson
7. Barney Google – Ernest Hare & Billy Jones
8. Who's Sorry Now – Marion Harris
9. Aunt Hagar's Blues – Ted Lewis
10. Stella – Al Jolson
It was not a broken chart, though. Yes! We Have No Bananas, written by Frank Silver (real name: Frank Silverstadt) and Irving Cohn, was the best-selling song (and also the best-selling sheet music) of 1923. It was recorded by 18 different artists. Billy Jones' version was number one for five weeks. The version by Ben Selvin and Irving Kaufman went to number one in October and the version by the Great White Orchestra reached #3. There were also chart versions by Benny Krueger (with vocals by Billy Jones) and the Sam Lanin Orchestra. Here is the original version, recorded by vaudeville comedians Edward Furman and William Nash on March 31, 1923:
1. Yes! We Have No Bananas – Billy Jones
2. Swingin' Down The Lane – Isham Jones
3. Yes! We Have No Bananas – Great White Way Orchestra
4. Yes! We Have No Bananas – Ben Selvin/Irving Kaufman
5. Down Hearted Blues – Bessie Smith
6. Morning Will Come – Al Jolson
7. Barney Google – Ernest Hare & Billy Jones
8. Who's Sorry Now – Marion Harris
9. Aunt Hagar's Blues – Ted Lewis
10. Stella – Al Jolson
It was not a broken chart, though. Yes! We Have No Bananas, written by Frank Silver (real name: Frank Silverstadt) and Irving Cohn, was the best-selling song (and also the best-selling sheet music) of 1923. It was recorded by 18 different artists. Billy Jones' version was number one for five weeks. The version by Ben Selvin and Irving Kaufman went to number one in October and the version by the Great White Orchestra reached #3. There were also chart versions by Benny Krueger (with vocals by Billy Jones) and the Sam Lanin Orchestra. Here is the original version, recorded by vaudeville comedians Edward Furman and William Nash on March 31, 1923:
No. I don't think anybody was wondering that.
That chart is bananas!
And people say that LPs are better sound quality.
That chart is bananas!
And people say that LPs are better sound quality.
Spike Jones & His City Slickers recorded Yes! We Have No Bananas in 1950. Additional lyrics were written by Eddie Maxwell, who also co-wrote Spike Jones' Pal-yat-chee and Teenage Brain Surgeon and Felix Figueroa's Pico & Sepulveda (The Street Song). Anthony Newley recorded a horrible rendition of Yes! We Have No Bananas in 1961 and you can all be thankful I am not posting it here.
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Olivia Rodrigo has 13 songs in the top 40 this week - 11 are debuting on the Hot 100 this week. What an accomplishment!! Most of the biggest artists of the 70s 80s and 90s never accomplished this over their whole careers. She must be better than them all!!!
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At the risk of sounding like an old man here ( guilty as charged ) it's crazy how irrelevant the chart has become. I know the business is completely different now, but when you see the type of thing Sad posted it just drives home how pointless it all is. Hard for me to believe it's changed SO much from when I worked at Broadcast Data Systems ( the company that compiles the data that makes up the Billboard chart ), & that was just 18 years ago.
The charts in the 80s were faulty. I mean, calling record stores and radio stations? What did you sell/spin this week? And it was even very different between early 80s (you could stay at #1 for two months) and late 80s (a new #1 every week). The best era was probably when they moved to SoundScan in the early 90s for some kind of accuracy.
But the biggest problem between then and now is: back then there was financial investment in a song. You had to release a physical single and sales of it helped determine chart position. If the record label spent $200,000 printing up 7"s and cassingles and CD5s, they had an investment in the song.
And if a radio station played a song, they risked losing their audience to another station because the song sucked. There was no way to track how many times people played a record/CD in their house. Hell, even MP3 sales at 99 cents was at least SOME kind of investment by the listener, even though it's easily manipulated by a record company - "we don't have to spend $200K printing up CD singles, we'll just buy our own song on MP3 10K times and watch it fly up the charts".
But this whole streaming thing is bullshit. No investment by record label or listeners. Charts are easily manipulated, like how I posted earlier about that Beiber single. He just sends out a tweet saying "stream for at least 30 seconds on this platform. stream the whole song here, put it on a playlist and loop the playlist. etc etc etc" Instructions on how to manipulate the chart direct to the fans. They didn't track how many times someone played a song on their walkman or boombox. But that's what they're doing now.
I see chart manipulation all the time. I'll have to start taking screenshots when I do. People in Facebook fan groups saying, "I created a playlist of the new album and put it on repeat. I'm probably up to 1,000 streams of each song!" Followed by "me too!" Broken chart!! Get off my lawn!!
But the biggest problem between then and now is: back then there was financial investment in a song. You had to release a physical single and sales of it helped determine chart position. If the record label spent $200,000 printing up 7"s and cassingles and CD5s, they had an investment in the song.
And if a radio station played a song, they risked losing their audience to another station because the song sucked. There was no way to track how many times people played a record/CD in their house. Hell, even MP3 sales at 99 cents was at least SOME kind of investment by the listener, even though it's easily manipulated by a record company - "we don't have to spend $200K printing up CD singles, we'll just buy our own song on MP3 10K times and watch it fly up the charts".
But this whole streaming thing is bullshit. No investment by record label or listeners. Charts are easily manipulated, like how I posted earlier about that Beiber single. He just sends out a tweet saying "stream for at least 30 seconds on this platform. stream the whole song here, put it on a playlist and loop the playlist. etc etc etc" Instructions on how to manipulate the chart direct to the fans. They didn't track how many times someone played a song on their walkman or boombox. But that's what they're doing now.
I see chart manipulation all the time. I'll have to start taking screenshots when I do. People in Facebook fan groups saying, "I created a playlist of the new album and put it on repeat. I'm probably up to 1,000 streams of each song!" Followed by "me too!" Broken chart!! Get off my lawn!!
Darkness falls across the chart
The midnight hour is about to start
A song from 1983
Will never die, it's plain to see
Michael Jackson is in the grave
But Thriller will always be a fave
'Twas played a lot on Hallowe'en
On the Hot 100 it can be seen
At number 21
Ah-hah-hah-hah-hah-haaaaaa!
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The midnight hour is about to start
A song from 1983
Will never die, it's plain to see
Michael Jackson is in the grave
But Thriller will always be a fave
'Twas played a lot on Hallowe'en
On the Hot 100 it can be seen
At number 21
Ah-hah-hah-hah-hah-haaaaaa!
Michael Jackson returns to Billboard’s Hot 100 with 1983’s ‘Thriller’
Michael Jackson’s “Thriller” returned to the Billboard charts — 40 years after it was officially released as a single.
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And they're all "Taylor's Version" songs, which means they're re-recordings of her old stuff. It would be like back in 2004 when Twisted Sister re-recorded every song on Stay Hungry (ie "We're Not Gonna Take It", "I Wanna Rock", "The Price"...), imagine if all nine songs landed in the top 40. BROKEN CHART!
Taylor Swift's Cruel Summer is now in its fourth week at number one on the Hot 100. She has 11 songs on the chart. Jack Harlow's Lovin On Me debuted at #2 on the Hot 100 and debuted at number one on both the R&B/Hip-Hop chart and the Rap Songs chart. And what beautiful lyrics: "I'm vanilla, baby. I'll choke you but I'm no killer, baby." Gak!
Mariah Carey's All I Want For Christmas Is You, which gets my vote for most overplayed song of the 21st century, re-enters at #17. And the Beatles' Now & Then, which debuted last week at #7.......
.......fell to #76.
Mariah Carey's All I Want For Christmas Is You, which gets my vote for most overplayed song of the 21st century, re-enters at #17. And the Beatles' Now & Then, which debuted last week at #7.......
.......fell to #76.
Considering that more than a thousand Taylor Swift songs have been on the Hot 100 this year – at least it seems like it – this news is not surprising:
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Taylor Swift Is Crowned as Spotify's Top Artist of the Year with 26 Billion Streams Worldwide
Yet another W for the Swifties ✨
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