Broken Chart

scotchandcigar

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Lil Bullshit....

#4 Lil Baby "California Breeze" NEW
#8 Lil Baby "Forever" NEW
#10 Lil Baby "Real Spill" NEW
#15 Lil Baby "Pop Out" NEW
#16 Lil Baby "In A Minute" (on the chart for 28 weeks)
#19 Lil Baby "Never Hating" NEW
#21 Lil Baby "Hey" (on the chart for 2 weeks)
#22 Lil Baby "Stand On It" NEW
#26 Lil Baby "Not Finished" NEW
#32 Lil Baby "Perfect Timing" NEW


Every single one of these songs fell out of the top 40. One fell off the Hot 100 entirely. As Nina would say "In A Minute" falls a whopping 84 spots...
BTW Taylor holds 19 of those top 40 spots.

#42 Lil Baby "From Now On" NEW
#45 Lil Baby "Waterfall Flow" NEW

#52 Lil Baby "Everything" NEW
#54 Lil Baby "Double Down" NEW
#57 Lil Baby "Cost To Be Alive" NEW
#58 Lil Baby "Shiest Talk" NEW

#64 Lil Baby "Top Priority" NEW
#66 Lil Baby/Khaled "Staying Alive" (on the chart for 11 weeks)
#68 Lil Baby "Back And Forth" NEW

#69 Lil Baby "Danger" NEW
#70 Lil Baby "Russian Roulette" NEW
#76 Lil Baby "FR" NEW
#80 Lil Baby "No Fly Zone" NEW

#81 Lil Baby "Stop Playin'" NEW
#84 Lil Baby "Freestyle" (on the chart for 6 weeks)


12 songs were on the Hot 100 for one week. And are now gone.

BROKEN CHART!
I just happen to have a picture of all the people that make-up the Hot 100 listenership

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But if you want to keep banging your head
I'm a metal guy. I want to bang my head until metal health drives me mad!
I just happen to have a picture of all the people that make-up the Hot 100 listenership
Funny! When I was doing songs reviews back in 2008/2009/2010 I reviewed "Fireflies" by Owl City. I got an idea of what the people at his show looked like and it was EXACTLY like I imagined it. A bunch of heavily-madeup 15 year old girls wearing glitter and unicorn items. I wish I could find it again. All I have is the line I put in my review:

As I close my eyes, I can envision standing in line for Young's autograph. Suddenly I smell grape lipgloss and see an army of brightly colored pajama pants. A photo of the front row from one of his recent concerts confirmed my suspicions.
 

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This is from a facebook post in a Countdown group I belong. Someone actually asked someone at billboard if they were aware how fucked up their chart was. This was the posted response. Disclaimer: this is completely unverified and comes from the internet. Make of it what you will:

Yes, came back the response, the staff at Billboard is well aware of the problem of comparing streaming apples to sales & airplay oranges—and many staffers there could out-geek all of us when it comes to chart history. But the magazine feels it must reflect current modes of consumption. And in the streaming era, streams (not radio airplay or physical sales) so thoroughly dominate the listening landscape that Billboard feels it must reflect that fact on the chart that tabulates plays of individual songs. (Note that I didn’t use the word “singles”—a word whose definition has become awfully amorphous over the last 30 years, compared to how we all understood it in the years between 1950-1990. Billboard now calls them “song charts,” not “singles charts.”)
 

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The Billboard Hot 100 is a list of the week's "most popular songs across all genres, ranked by radio airplay monitored by Nielsen BDS, download sales tracked by Nielsen SoundScan and streaming activity data provided by leading online music services."

Memo to that anonymous Billboard employee: There are no such things as "streaming apples" and "sales & airplay oranges." They are songs, not pieces of fruit!
 

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Apples have cores. Oranges have seeds. Neither has a pit. I'm glad I could clarify this for you. And now here is the origin of the expression "the pits," described by the Collins English Dictionary as "an extremely unpleasant, boring or depressing place, condition, person, etc.; the absolute worst."

 
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Someone actually asked someone at billboard if they were aware how fucked up their chart was.
I actually laughed out loud after reading this line.

What Billboard needs to understand is that if one of these 20-somethings I work with starts a stream of an album at the office and then walks to the water cooler to chat for an hour, missing the whole thing, that's not what a songs chart should be tracking.

The chart used to represent the popularity of a song by using methods where people who needed to recoup money would play it to listeners in hopes it would draw listeners and not drive them away, whether it's a radio station playing in someone's car or in a convenience store. The money is recouped by advertisers being shown that people listen to the station because they like choice the songs.

What radio station would take the latest album from Lil Baby and play it from start to finish? People want the hits, not the deep album tracks. That would be like a rock station back in 1989 playing Winger's debut from start to finish. Nobody wants to hear "State Of Emergency", "Without The Night" and "Hanging On". They want "Seventeen" and "Headed For A Heartbreak", then move on to Van Halen, Def Leppard and Guns N Roses. Otherwise they're tuning out. It shows popularity of a SONG.

The other thing the chart was based on was sales. Going out and DROPPING HARD EARNED CASH for a song (cassingle, CD5, 7", 12"). That's commitment. Not saying "Alexa, play Lil Baby's new album" and then going outside after 2 songs to rake the lawn.
 

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I actually laughed out loud after reading this line.

What Billboard needs to understand is that if one of these 20-somethings I work with starts a stream of an album at the office and then walks to the water cooler to chat for an hour, missing the whole thing, that's not what a songs chart should be tracking.

The chart used to represent the popularity of a song by using methods where people who needed to recoup money would play it to listeners in hopes it would draw listeners and not drive them away, whether it's a radio station playing in someone's car or in a convenience store. The money is recouped by advertisers being shown that people listen to the station because they like choice the songs.

What radio station would take the latest album from Lil Baby and play it from start to finish? People want the hits, not the deep album tracks. That would be like a rock station back in 1989 playing Winger's debut from start to finish. Nobody wants to hear "State Of Emergency", "Without The Night" and "Hanging On". They want "Seventeen" and "Headed For A Heartbreak", then move on to Van Halen, Def Leppard and Guns N Roses. Otherwise they're tuning out. It shows popularity of a SONG.

The other thing the chart was based on was sales. Going out and DROPPING HARD EARNED CASH for a song (cassingle, CD5, 7", 12"). That's commitment. Not saying "Alexa, play Lil Baby's new album" and then going outside after 2 songs to rake the lawn.
Back in the day...

A band would release an album (it wouldn't "drop"), and a single would be chosen for radio airplay. Sometimes the single would precede the album, by months even. Then, down the road, another single would be chosen for airplay if the album was popular. And for really great albums, maybe they'd release 4 or 5 singles. But there would be months - or even years - between releases. So there'd be no way you could have more than 2 singles charting at the same time.

Now, I'm an album guy. So when I bought Pearl Jam's Vs., or Squeeze's East Side Story, or Steely Dan's Gaucho, or U2's Achtung Baby, I listened to the whole album straight through, over and over, before the songs hit the radio (except perhaps for promo singles). So if there were a bunch of people who did the same, we could all pick a bunch of songs from each album to fill the Billboard top 10. But it didn't work that way.

It's the same with TV. We used to tune in to see the new episode of MASH (go fuck yourself with the asterisks) every week. Or Cheers, or Seinfeld, or just about any show. But now, they put out the whole season at once, and you can binge on however many episodes you want.
 
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I'm an album guy too, but we were probably usually listening to different albums. In 1992, while you were listening to Suzanne Vega's 99.9F and XTC Nonsuch, I was listening to Cure Wish and Rage Against The Machine's debut.

But I was listening to the songs "99.9F" and "Ballad Of Peter Pumpkinhead" and you were listening to "Friday I'm In Love" and "Killing In the Name".

But Johnny Jojo loves the whole Right Said Fred album and Dr Dre's The Chronic. But you and I only listen to "I'm too Sexy" and "Nothin But A G Thing".

Expand that to a million people and that's how I think the Hot 100 should look. The cream of the crop.

And just because a million people stream "Harlem Shake" and "Baby Shark" shouldn't put them on the Hot 100.

Whoever can come up with a way to calculate all that in the modern age and make a chart that works, I'll buy 'em a beer!
 

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According to Billboard, for every dollar a streaming service pays in royalties, the artist receives about 16 cents and the label receives about 64 cents. A little more than a penny goes to the performing rights organizations. The remainder goes to the songwriters and the publishers.
 
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while you were listening to Suzanne Vega's 99.9F and XTC Nonsuch, I was listening to Cure Wish and Rage Against The Machine's debut.
Funny. I was listening to both those albums and Rush, Enigma, Bela Fleck, Van Halen, and Tribe Called Quest.

I guess I'm not quite the Chart demographic.
 

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Ooohhh, another ferslhlugginer list!

A Broken Heart & A Pillow Filled With Tears - Patti Page
A Broken Heart Can Mend - Alexander O'Neal
A Broken Man - Malibus
A Broken Record - Guy Lombardo
A Broken Record - Freddy Martin & The Martinettes
Bad Liver & A Broken Heart - Tom Waits
Badly Broken - Get Scared
Ballad Of The Broken - Hayden Forbes
Bless The Broken Road - Melodie Crittenden
Bless The Broken Road - Rascal Flatts
Bless The Broken Road - Carrie Underwood/Rascal Flatts
Boulevard Of Broken Dreams - Green Day
Broken - Andy Childs
Broken - Guess Who
Broken - Lindsay Haun
Broken - Noelle Johnson
Broken - Lifehouse
Broken - lovelytheband
Broken - Seether/Amy Lee
Broken Arrow - Chuck Berry
Broken Arrow - Buffalo Springfield
Broken Arrow - Rod Stewart
Broken Arrows - Avicii
Broken Bell - Teddy Randazzo
Broken Blossoms - Charles Harrison
Broken Bones - Tommy Cash
Broken Clocks - SZA
Broken Crown - Mumford & Sons
Broken Down - Sevendust
Broken Down Angel - Nazareth
Broken Down Cowboy - John Fogerty
Broken Down In Tiny Pieces - Billy "Crash" Craddock
Broken Down Merry-Go-Round - Margaret Whiting/Jimmy Wakely
Broken Dream - Jimmy Smart
Broken Dreams - Columbians
Broken Engagement - Webb Pierce
Broken Glass - George Duke
Broken Guitar Blues - Lighthouse
Broken Halos - Chris Stapleton
Broken Heart -- Bobbettes
Broken Heart - Fiestas
Broken Heart - Medallions
Broken Heart Attack - Sweet
Broken Hearted - Arden-Ohman Orchestra
Broken Hearted - Nick Lucas
Broken Hearted - Miracles
Broken Hearted - Aileen Stanley
Broken Hearted - Paul Whiteman
Broken Hearted - Eddie Williams
Broken Hearted Gypsy - Johnny Horton
Broken Hearted Man's Prayer - Johnny Gilliam
Broken Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan
Broken Heartland - Zaca Creek
Broken Hearted Me - Anne Murray
Broken Hip - Olympics
Broken Lady - Larry Gatlin
Broken Land - Adventures
Broken Language - smoothedahustler
Broken Man - Corbin/Hanner
Broken Promise Land - Mark Chesnutt
Broken Trust - Brenda Lee/Oak Ridge Boys
Broken Vow - Chris Botti
Broken Vow - Chordettes
Broken Vow - Lara Fabian
Broken Vow - Sarah Geronimo
Broken Vow - Josh Groban
Broken Windshield View - Chris Lane
Broken Wing - Martina McBride
Broken Wings - Terry McDermott
Broken Wings - Mr. Mister
Broken Wings - Rick Springfield/Richard Page
Brokenhearted - Brandy
Brokenhearted - Karmin
Brokenheartsville - Joe Nichols
Can't Be Broken - Lil Wayne
Down To My Last Broken Heart - Janie Fricke
Everything Is Broken - Sheryl Crow
Everything Is Broken - Bob Dylan
For My Broken Heart - Reba McEntire
How Can You Mend A Broken Heart - Bee Gees
In A Broken Dream - Python Lee Jackson
Me & My Broken Heart - Push Baby
Me & My Broken Heart - Rixton
My Heart Is Broken - Evanescence
My Next Broken Heart - Brooks & Dunn
One Broken Heart For Sale - Elvis Presley
She's Broken - Billie Eilish
Some Broken Hearts Never Mind - Don Williams
The Broken - Coheed & Cambria
Walking On Broken Glass - Annie Lennox
What Becomes Of The Brokenhearted - Jimmy Ruffin
Where Do Broken Hearts Go - Whitney Houston
Will The Circle Be Unbroken - Gregg Allman
Will The Circle Be Unbroken - Maybelle Carter/Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
Will The Circle Be Unbroken - Carter Family
Will The Circle Be Unbroken - Richie Havens
Will The Circle Be Unbroken - George Jones
Will The Circle Be Unbroken - Bill & Charlie Monroe
Will The Circle Be Unbroken - Ocean
Will The Circle Be Unbroken - Staple Singers
Will The Circle Be Unbroken - Youngbloods
You've Broken My Heart - Gloria Estefan

My favorite of all these is this one by Sarah Vaughan. It reached #7 on the Hot 100 in September 1959.

 
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3 Doors Down - The Broken
ALL - Broken
Another Animal - Broken Again
Bell X1 - The Ribs Of A Broken Umbrella
Billy Falcon - Broken Dreams
Buckcherry - Broken Glass
Corrosion Of Conformity - Broken Man
Depeche Mode - Broken
Heart - Beautiful Broken
Jasper Steverlinck - Broken
Kazzer - Broken Bones
Killswitch Engage - I Am Broken Too
King's X - Six Broken Soldiers
Logic & Rag'n'Bone Man - Broken People
Nonpoint - Broken Bones
Pantera - I'm Broken
Prong - Broken Peace
Seventh Void - Broken Sky
Trews - Poor 'ol Broken Hearted Me
Vertical Horizon - Broken Over You
Warrant - Only Broken Heart
Zeromancer - Die Of A Broken Heart

Another Animal is Godsmack without Sully

Billy Falcon is best known for co-writing some of Bon Jovi's hits from 2000 on

Heart's song features James Hetfield

Seventh Void features two ex-Type O Negative members
 
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